The Sign of Jonah for Islam
as seen at FreeRepublic  by Jen Shroder

Muslims seem to be having trouble understanding the "Sign of Jonah." Because Islamworld and my webpage currently trade off for Google's number 1 slot on the subject, I have been overwhelmed with Muslim claims that the sign disproves Jesus, so please allow me to answer with Scriptures. Jesus said:

"An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the whale's belly, so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth" (Mt 12:40)

The Muslim argument begins with the claim that Jonah was alive when he was thrown into the sea, was swallowed by the fish and then vomited out to go on and preach at Ninevah. They argue that if Jonah was alive, then Jesus must have been alive in the tomb.

Where do Scriptures say that Jonah did not die in the giant fish? From Jonah's prayer, it looks like he did:

"...Out of the belly of hell I cried...the earth with its bars closed behind me forever; Yet You have brought up my life from the pit, O LORD, my God. When my soul fainted within me, I remembered the LORD..." (Jonah 2)

Surely Islam agrees that once dead we do not cease to exist? This is not the whole miracle of Christ, but the parallels between Jesus and Jonah confirm each other.

Once the debate about the death of Jonah is over, the argument begins that Jesus was not dead three days and three nights. Read carefully what the Scriptures say. It was never written that Jesus was dead three days and three nights, how would that be a sign when Jesus had just called Lazarus out of the tomb after four days? Would Christ give a lesser sign?

What was miraculous and a sign is that Jesus became our sin:


"For He has made Him to be sin for us, who knew no sin;
that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him."
(2 Cor 5:21)
When Jesus became sin, He was engulfed by it on the night He was betrayed and arrested.

As I showed in "The Sign of Jonah," ALL of the Scriptures name the time by including Jesus SUFFERED, died and rose again wherever it is written: "three days and three nights." EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM. One Scripture quotes a Pharisee that left out any form of "suffer," but that was because he was a Pharisee and didn't know. In the authority of Scripture, twelve times, the suffering of Christ is ALWAYS included.

The three days and three nights, as told by Scriptures, began when He was taken by the soldiers and presented as the Lamb, without blemish. His last noted Biblical miracle until His resurrection was healing an ear. At the exact moment in time when He was taken, He was made to be sin for us and the beatings and abuse began. If it was not so, then these verses would make no sense:


"He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities, the chastisement of our peace [prosperity, welfare] was upon Him, and by His stripes we are healed" (Isaiah 53:5)

"[We were redeemed]... with the precious blood of Christ,
as of a lamb without blemish and without spot." (1 Peter 1:19)

"For He has made Him to be sin for us, who knew no sin;
that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him."
(2 Cor 5:21)
Payment for our sins did not begin with His death, but when His precious blood flowed. This is what Scripture says. And at that point He was sin, "that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him." Jesus did not begin payment when He died but for three days and nights before He rose again, at the moment He was arrested. He even said so:


"But this is your hour, and the power of darkness" (Luke 22:53)
The heart of the earth, according to Scripture, is not death in the ground. The heart of the earth is the wickedness of men's souls. The heart of the earth is our sin that Jesus became surrounded and submerged in. Why do you think there are so many parables about sowing seed [the words of life] in the earth [the heart of man]? We are the earth, remember?


"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground,
and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." (Gen 2)
If death alone was the only price to redeem us, then why did Christ pay with so much more? "Wounded for transgressions." "Bruised for our iniquities." "By His stripes we are healed." All of that, ALL of it, is included in the sign of Jonah, who was praying "out of the belly of hell."

So to all of Islamworld who try to use the Sign of Jonah to criticize Christians and our beliefs, be very careful. We come to Christ as children, there are mysteries in the Bible that the Holy Spirit reveals in His timing, not ours. But what He has revealed to us we receive gratefully, because He came for us and for you too, if you would receive Him. Please don't miss the last words of Jonah's prayer fulfilled by Jesus:


"Salvation is of the LORD."
God did not want you to miss His Son. Please do not miss the sign that He gave. It points directly at Jesus Christ and His suffering, death and resurrection that you could have life in Him.

Original "Sign of Jonah" given to atheists
Much more in depth, even explains the man in linen on the night He was betrayed.

Conversations about
Islam and Muhammad

an invitation

I've been receiving a ton of emails from Muslims lately attempting to debate the Sign of Jonah and the authenticity of Scriptures compared to the Quran / Koran. I am posting this in hope they will address their concerns here.

I do ask that we keep it at one topic at a time. Flooding with cut and pastes is not at all helpful, and I only have so much time. Thanks.

UPDATE: After receiving no response, following are clips from another forum with some mail answers mixed in. You are welcome to respond in comments or PLEASE post your emails here.

Culture Jihadist said...
But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator. In the first place amongst these there are the Mohamedans, who, professing to hold the faith of Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God, who on the last day will judge mankind. - LUMEN GENTIUM

Nevertheless, the religiosity of Muslims deserves respect. It is impossible not to admire, for example, their fidelity to prayer. The image of believers in Allah who, without caring about time or place, fall to their knees and immerse themselves in prayer remains a model for all those who invoke the true God, in particular for those Christians who, having deserted their magnificent cathedrals, pray only a little or not at all.
- "Crossing the Threshold of Hope" by Pope John Paul II

Jen said...
ummmm, Culture Jihadist, maybe Muslims are so devoted because their holy books tell them it is DEATH to leave Islam. And the way it plays out in the Middle East, often members of their family receive torture if a family member leaves.

No Muslim can deny that to leave Islam, to stop being Muslim, is punishable by death in Islam. On that there are no contradictions.
Culture Jihadist said...

maybe Muslims are so devoted because their holy books tell them it is DEATH to leave Islam.

John 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
You would have to ask Muslims in America and Europe, where no civil authority can put them to death for apostacy, why they continue to worship the one same God as the Christians do.

Jen said...
But Allah is not the Christian God. If Allah was, why would he put a curse upon all Christians and Jews?

"Fight those who do not believe in Allah…And the Jews say Ezra is the son of God; and the Christians say Christ is the son of God; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; Allah’s curse be on them; how they are turned away!" (Koran 9:29-30)

Culture Jihadist said...
The Pope says one thing, while jent says something else. There's a moral dilemma, choosing whether to follow the lead of the visible head of Christendom, or some anonymous internet blogger's opinion.

Jen said...
Don't believe me, don't accept everything from the Pope without checking with the Holy Spirit and the Bible. It's all about God and what He wrote. Compare that to what Muhammad said that Allah said, the characters are opposite.
Allah is not "God". It grieves me that we changed all the awesome names of God in the Bible to the title "God." Now it's very confusing when Allah is translated to god. We should have continued to call "God" Eloheim, Yeshua, Adonai, El Shaddai, so many beautiful names.

Allah is not one of them. In fact, phonetically, in Hebrew, Allah means to curse and lament.

dizzy said...
So the pope and the catholic church is suffering from apostasy, just as we were warned. That is why I differentiate Catholicism from Christianity. I am NOT doing this to start a flame war with catholics. Before you blast me, please read the following questions posed below and when you can answer them with biblical cites, feel free to respond on that issue.

Catholicism is defined by the whim of the Pope, whom the church sees as "infallible" on topics ecumenical, biblical and spiritual.

A "Christian" is defined thusly: A believer in Jesus Christ as savior: somebody who believes that Jesus Christ was sent to the world by God to save humanity, and who tries to follow his teachings and example".

Per that "Lumen Gentium" you cited, The Pope disagrees with the words of Jesus Christ that HE (Christ) is the one route to salvation. How can one disavow Christ's teachings on salvation and define oneself as "CHRISTian"? How can one praise those who worship other "gods" for their worship of that "god"; (as done is topic 16 of the Lumen Gentium) and the islamic "god" IS another "god"; and equate that worship of another "god" with the worship of the Christian God and still be a CHRISTian?

Their "god" didn't have a son. Our's did. So much for the "same god" idea*. Either Our God was lying to them about that, another being was lying to them professing to be "God" (large "G") and they bought into it, or they are lying about their god being OUR God. Take yer pick.
*http://answering-islam.org.uk/Silas/son2.htm

Molly May said...
Rather than attempting to take on jent, at which task you are failing, you may want to cut your losses now and trot on back to freerepublic immigration threads where you at least can sound the alarm for your soft-on-illegal-aliens buddies to help you out.

Instead of confining your modest talents to defending the illegal alien lawbreakers from Mexico, I see you've now branched out to include Muslims within your protective embrace. Pathetic...

You may want to bail out now. She's eating your lunch.

MarineDad said...
The visible leader of Christendom is not the leader of the church Yeshua built on the confession of Peter. The Lord never did relinquish His position as leader of Christianity. Christendom and Christianity today have no more than a nodding acquaintance with one another. Personally I will choose Christianity, it will lead me to eternity with God. Christendom is a nice social organization which seems to not want to offend anyone. Jesus offended many, most of whom have long since been forgotten.

Jen said...
I'm on the books as Catholic but I go to Calvary Chapel and other denominations because I love to study the Bible and I believe no one Church has a monopoly on Jesus Christ. It’s all about whether one has the foundation of Christ. We are to be born again, and I believe there will be many, and not all, from every church that are born again that have the foundation of Christ.
As far as an infallible Pope goes, I’m not sure I fully understand what the RCC means by that, but Peter was the first Pope and he made a mistake that Paul corrected him on. There are mistakes but God will deal with it.

I just get so tired of people bashing the Catholic Church. I just grow so tired of people bashing the Catholic church and I defend her often. I see the churches like this:

38 And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us.
39 But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me.
40 For he that is not against us is on our part.
41 For whosoever shall give you a cup of water to drink in my name, because ye belong to Christ, verily I say unto you, he shall not lose his reward.
(~Jesus according to Mark 9)

Jen said...
MarineDad, you wrote: "The visible leader of Christendom is not the leader of the church Yeshua built on the confession of Peter. The Lord never did relinquish His position as leader of Christianity... "
I've never heard "Christendom" used like that

To: Molly May
Good response. I'm sure he took that screennaame for a reason.

dizzy said...
dizzy: ("Culture Jihadist" writes) The Pope says one thing, while jent says something else. There's a moral dilemma, choosing whether to follow the lead of the visible head of Christendom, or some anonymous internet blogger's opinion.

You unwitingly just made my earlier point, CJ. you have also shown a lack of knowledge of Christianity. I presume that you are not a follower of same. The Pope is the head of the Catholic church but is NOT the "head of Christendom". Catholics ARE bound by his decrees and dogma. Christians are in no way bound by the decisions of the Pope and have not been since the time of the inception of the catholic church under Constantine. Information offered by "Jent", per se, who you attempt to impugn as "an anonymous internet blogger" and who apparently is anything BUT, in no way binds Christians. It is rather the fact that what she is offering is in fact that of Jesus Christ, through what is specifically addressed in the Bible, that binds us. She is in accord with same.(doffs hat to "Jent") THAT is the binding authority for Christians. Those who are of the romist church will have to follow the pope's decrees on this topic. Those of us who are Christ's followers POST reformation (aka; the time of Martin Luther) will continue to follow biblical teachings and the pope's decree is meaningless.
the Catholics see "the Reformation" and the attempted destruction of "The Church"+. Christians see it as the acknowledgement and triumph of Christ's teaching over those of the romist church's hybridization of Roman paganism and Christianity.º
+New Adventhttp://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12700b.htm
ºRoman Cathocilism, The Unbiblical churchhttp://www.scionofzion.com/rc.htm

The reluctant messenger, Two Babylons http://reluctant-messenger.com/2-babylons.htm

Culture Jihadist said...
"As we seek freedom in other nations, we must also work to renew the values that make freedom possible. As I said in my Inaugural Address, we cannot carry the message of freedom and the baggage of bigotry at the same time."
-- President George W. Bush, February 21, 2005

dizzy said...
CJ. I can see why you're in both here and the "open borders" threads. I suspect that you're in favor of keeping the borders open so the other jihadists can mosey in at their leisure, hence the dual interest. I am in both for just the opposite reason. I don't want ANYBODY coming over our borders illegally, regardless of point of origin. RE: BOOSH'S BS which you just cited. Everyone is a "bigot" (Definition: a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own) as we all have our likes and dislikes and personal beliefs. This would include you as you've made a number of statements in these discussions which have no basis in fact and are simply your opinions. El presidente BOOSH is one of the WORST. He ignores what 75% or Americans say they want, what security experts, national security organizations and the 9/11 panel say we need; he ignores history as well as ignoring common sense to push his own personal agenda. He's completely impervious to all the evidence to the contrary and will NOT change his opinions. That's "bigotry" to the "nth" degree. El presidente thinks Islam "is a religion of peace" in spite of the evidence and record to the contrary in existence since 638 AD (the Koran) and actions dating from 653AD to date. He thinks our borders are safe. He thinks that we "need" our invaders. He thinks that they are only taking the jobs Americans don't want. He believes invaders are good for the ecomony, apparently even those of the ilk that gave us 9/11.He believes we can stop people of that nature from coming across wide-open borders without in any way molesting his "family values peaceful agrarians" as they illegally pour across....See how it works? The Whitehouse is a refuge for an intransigent bigot living in La-la land. When I express an opinion I try and review the supporting facts up front and I am willing to offer up same, as in my previous post, for anyone interested. This tends to irritate "bigots" like you and Dane, holding opinions to the contrary, as, as noted and my facts-supported beliefs conflict with your prejudices. By doing so it makes it hard to argue personal opinions back and forth when one side just has an opinion based on personal experiences or preferences and the other side has supporting research. Feel free to start supporting your opinions.

plubius said...
The Pope is a man, nothing more.
Allah is NOT I AM.

Culture Jihadist said...
People argue endlessly about a being they have neither seen nor strongly desire to see.

plubius said...
To CulturalJihad People argue endlessly about a being they have neither seen nor strongly desire to see."
What people would that be?

HiTech said...
To dizzy: Per that "Lumen Gentium" you cited, The Pope disagrees with the words of Jesus Christ that HE (Christ) is the one route to salvation.

It looks like the Pope sees the road to Christ as beginning in morality and a belief in a creator. The intent seems to be that, with the Pope's blessings, and with the picture, however distorted, that they have of God, some of these Muslims sooner or later would come to believe in Jesus Christ, in the next world if not this one (i.e. in a purgatory). It actually isn't too far from some of C. S. Lewis's speculations about conversions that take place "under the cloud." Now whether this is credible is another story. The way many (not all) Muslims carry on seems to imply that they have cast the devil as their god.

MarineDad said...
To: jent
The term "Christendom" has been used to describe the plethora of denominations claiming to be Christian without keeping the simplicity described by St. Paul in the first Corinthian letter Chapter 1:
"21 For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was well-pleased through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe. 22 For indeed Jews ask for signs and Greeks search for wisdom; 23 but we preach Christ crucified, to Jews a stumbling block and to Gentiles foolishness, 24 but to those who are the called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men."

He was indicating that the message of redemption was so simple as to seem foolish to educated men of the time. Christianity is the movement started by the Apostles which holds to the Word of God, which declares that all believers in and of God's Word are priests,that Yeshua ha Mashiach (Jesus the Christ) is the only Way to be saved; and which worships Him regardless of the names men have hung on various assemblies of Christians. Thus the leader of the former is not the leader of the latter because only the Messiah can be the leader of Christianity, and He does not dwell in the Vatican.

The term Christendom was coined at a time when only the Roman Church was considered to be Christian. Christendom was the instigator of the Crusades, the Inquisition, and the persecution of the Jews. Christianity has its roots in Judaism, and the first Christians were all Jews. There are many today who are both Christian and Jewish. And there are many groups within Christendom who preach a message incompatible with God's Word. Once again citing Saint Paul, in Galatians 1:8 he said: "But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed!" My wife who was born Roman Catholic, baptized Roman Catholic, grew up in a Roman Catholic home, attended Parochial schools for twelve years, and was married in a Nuptial Mass, left Catholicism when she was told by a priest that she should stop reading the Bible because it was making her ask too many questions. We both believe in the dichotomy Christendom/Christianity. And we choose Christianity.
(Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.)

Jen said...
To: MarineDad
thanks MD, when you wrote "was indicating that the message of redemption was so simple as to seem foolish to educated men of the time." I see that as so true.
MarineDad, the textbook was predominantly written from the Muslim standpoint, any idea why they refused to call Catholics "Catholics" in the textbook? They taught about Catholicism but it was weird, refused to call them Catholics, rather Christians.

I kept trying to figure out why...wonder if it's because the Koran curses Christians, but doesn't use the word Catholic?

MarineDad said...
Jen,
There are many major religions who have one commonality, the need to balance your bad actions with good ones. Islam, Rabbinic Judiasm, Roman Catholicism, most of the Eastern religions, usw. Possibly that commonality is the reason that textbooks biased toward Islam would not name any particular group but would lump them all under Christianity. But who knows what goes on in the mind of a Muslim radical?

OBAMA'S ILLEGITIMATE WAR ON ISRAEL

as seen at FreeRepublic by Jen Shroder

We try to forget that Obama was born and raised Muslim, named Hussein, (a distinctly Muslim name)—Muslim family—Muslim attire, enrolled in schools as Muslim, admits Koranic studies, is described by those who knew him as "previously quite religious in Islam."(1) Obama announced we "are no longer a Christian nation," celebrates Ramadan, ignores the National Day of Prayer, declares Israel settlements as "illegitimate" on the eve of the high holy day of Judaism…Obama has all of Islam applauding, rallying, proclaiming "Our Time has Come" and tyrants expressing hope Obama will remain president forever…

I suppose it’s disrespectful to say "If it walks like a duck…"

In 1973, Islam attacked Israel on Yom Kippur. President Obama is following suit with his own Ramadan War on Israel. Oh, wait! Ramadan is a month of peace, right? A month that war is forbidden. UNLESS THE VICTIMS ARE UNBELIEVERS.

The Sira, (2) a sacred book studied by all imams, clerics and mullahs, reveals that when Mohammed’s men attacked and killed a caravan of unbelievers on the last day of a sacred month, Allah’s response according to Mohammed was, "They will ask you about the sacred month, and war in it.… If you have killed in the sacred month, they have kept you back from the way of Allah with their unbelief in him, ..and they will not cease to fight you until they turn you back from your religion if they can’" (Sira:425, 426) And so Allah sanctioned slaughtering on sacred months as Mohammed's men were excused.

The Quran/Koran instructs Islam to follow the Life of Mohammed. The Sira is accepted throughout the Middle East as the oldest and most accurate account of that life and it sanctions murder and deception as long as it furthers the cause of Allah.

Obama studied Islam. The West does not. The greatest propaganda machine in all of mankind’s history has been the marketing of Islam as peaceful. We are flooded with that claim in our schools, in the media and from the White House. Most of us believe it even as entire nations are being systematically slaughtered in the name of Allah.

Israel’s Rights to her Homeland

Obama’s "illegitimate settlements" indeed! Israel’s rights to her homeland are archaeological, historical, Biblical. (3) The Jews were ousted by the Greeks and the land became the most desolate spot on earth. The Jews came back and BOUGHT it when Great Britain controlled it, they paid for all of it including Jordan and the mountains of Israel. But then under Arab pressure, the deal was reversed and Israel only received 23% of what they paid for. Yet the Jews continued to purchase it independently. Israel is the only nation that can prove by land titles and deeds that they OWN the land, five-times what they have, paid twice over, for what was theirs in the first place. Testimony before the Royal Commission on January 12, 1937 proves the private purchases were recognized.

"The Lord said to Abram, "Lift up now your eyes, and look from the place where you are northward, and southward, and eastward and westward: for all the land which you see, to you will I give it, and to your seed forever." (Gen 13)

There was never a nation of Palestine, it is only the location swarmed by various peoples after the Jews made it lush again. Now what small percentage the Jews have left, Obama is calling "illegitimate."

Where is that birth certificate again, Hussein?

Israel has one. You won’t show us yours.

Political Feedback of Obama’s UN Speech:

"We continue to emphasize that America does not accept the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlements (in the West Bank)… We know the future will be forged by deeds and not simply words. Speeches alone will not solve our problems. It will take persistent action. So for those who question the character and cause of my nation, I ask you to look at the concrete actions we have taken in just nine months." Muslim representatives thundered in applause.

(Shudder) What are we forging by Obama’s deeds?

Steve Hayes of "The Weekly Standard" assessed the Obama administration as wanting to "elevate the United Nations and make it a serious global policy-making body. …"You have Muammar Qaddafi, a rogue dictator, a crazy man, speaking -- supposed to speak for 15 minutes, ends up speaking for some 90 minutes, filled with untruths, half-truths, complete nonsense. The United Nations was never able to enforce its resolutions on Iraq. It is not able to enforce its resolutions on Iran. It is not even able to keep Muammar Qaddafi from talking for more than 15 minutes. I think it was a dangerous speech in many ways."

Charles Krauthammer, noted political analyst said, "Obama's speech is alarming because it says the United States has no more moral right to act or to influence world history than Bangladesh or Sierra Leone. It diminishes the United States deliberately and wants to say that we should be one nation among others, and not defend the alliance of democracies that we have in NATO, for example, or to say as every president has said before Obama that we stand for something good and unique in the world.

"When Obama talked about how he had reversed the course of America and how those who doubt our character ought look at our actions, among the actions he cited was our joining the U.N. Human Rights Council, which is led by the worst human rights violators on the planet. It is an Orwellian, farcical organization. The idea that we should be on it is regrettable, but the idea that we should be boasting about it as an American achievement is a scandal."(4)

Rush Limbaugh was livid and said, "He talked about Israeli occupation, the "illegitimacy of the continued settlements"… Barack Obama is deconstructing the United States of America, internally and now externally in terms of foreign policy…He just ripped this country to shreds. He ripped Israel to shreds. He's promised we're no longer going to be a superpower…He talks about a New World Order, and a New World Order is him. Obama is bigger than his country; he's bigger than the presidency; he is the world. He delivered the United States of America to global powers today, just handed us over on a silver platter without a gunshot, without a shot being fired."

In a proclamation of warm wishes to Israel and Yom Kippur, Sarah Palin said, "A speech was given at the United Nations General Assembly yesterday that was full of hateful anti-Semitic rhetoric. It was a shameful display before a body whose very charter is premised on the need for co-operation and harmony in pursuit of peaceful co-existence between nations. Such talk was especially abhorrent coming as it did during the Jewish High Holidays. The world community must speak with one voice in declaring anti-Semitism and all forms of intolerance and racism utterly unacceptable. There is no place in the community of peace-loving nations for those who traffic in hate or deny the terrible atrocity of the Nazi Holocaust."(5)

But Sarah, those are Obama’s buddies.

It’s not certain whose speech she was condemning, but Obama "emphasized" which side he is sitting on. And he is claiming America sits with him.
America has THREE branches of government, Legislative, Judicial and Executive. Obama sounds more like a dictator, confident of his singular control, and has been assuring ISLAM we are one with them.

Obama said, "We are no longer a Christian nation" It didn’t take long for him to ring in his favored replacement. During his campaign, Obama talked about "my Muslim faith" and then claimed it was a gaffe. In light of recent news, the "hope and change" he’s reaching for, even his staunchest defenders have to be taking a second look. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h57H_7i3GLE&NR=1

Will anyone still defend Obama’s HUGE Islamic insult of displaying the heels of his feet while talking with Benjamin Netanyahu, prime minister of Israel in an official White House-released photo? That’s a cultural insult little known in the West. Obama’s feet were posed dead-on into the camera, why the detail of talking with Netanyahu if it was so innocent? Answer. It wasn’t. This is our intelligent president, remember? The one who bows to Saudi kings.(6)

WE THE PEOPLE are getting fed up with Obama dictating who we are, apologizing for us to pseudo-human-rights thugs and tyrants, and doing everything he can to destroy what was once a great nation.

The only hope I have is in my Lord and Savior. Pray for Israel and pray that Obama fails with his changes. I don’t want my future granddaughters forced to wear Obama burqas.

More importantly, I don't want to be counted as a people against Israel. That's a cup of trembling (7) I pray no one I know has to drink.

 ____________________________________________
Backup:
Obama’s Muslim childhood http://www.danielpipes.org/5544/barack-obamas-muslim-childhood
Sira http://www.blessedcause.org/complaint/Mary%20Habeck.htm
Seven Reasons Israel has a Right to Her Land http://www.mollyscannons.com/forums/showthread.php?p=461#post461
Fox News Special Report with Bret Baier http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,555164,00.html
Sarah Palin’s Warm Wishes on Yom Kippur http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/09/sarah-palin-on-yom-kippur-may-gd-bless-the-jewish-people.html
Rush Limbaugh http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_061009/content/01125106.member.html
Cup of trembling http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Zech%2012&version=KJV

All of heaven watches
how we wield our vote

as seen at FreeRepublic  | 10-31-10 | Jen Shroder

 
A man drives past the polling station with a shrug, thinking his one vote doesn't matter. Who cares?


Oh not many. Just all the host of heaven.


"For there is nothing covered that will not be revealed, nor hidden that will not be known. Therefore whatever you have spoken in the dark will be heard in the light, and what you have spoken in the ear in inner rooms will be proclaimed on the housetops." (-Jesus, Luke 12)


If and how we vote bears a huge impact in the spiritual realm. These are not idle matters.


Christine O'Donnell has been labeled "mentally ill" through the media because she openly admits her relationship with her heavenly Father. Money changes hands as slanderous stories emerge in efforts to destroy her bid for the U.S. Senate. Through it all Christine smiles, reflecting on her unexpected success as prayer groups mobilize. These are the spiritual matters that rock the attention of heavenly hosts, and armed with what information we have, all of heaven watches how we wield our vote.


Will we always be right? Will our choices for Senate adhere to their promises? Probably not. But God knows whether we bothered to defend to the best of our ability a child's life hanging in the balance, or whether or not our children are indoctrinated in public schools to every foul and perverse practice known under the sun. Battle lines emerge as our children's age of consent is continually assaulted, that men would have the right to seduce ever-younger children without repercussion or interference from the parent. Today, Mayor Gavin Newsom is ahead in the polls. How quickly we forget a man who threw aside the vote of the people against gay marriage and ordered city staff to perform them.


Does God hold us responsible for what Newsom did? No. But if we vote to increase his power as Lieutenant Governor or fail to vote for his conservative opposition, every action that Newsom imposes will be directly attributable to those who had the power to stop him, and didn't.


Do you really think God isn't watching?


"A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things. But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment." (-Jesus, Matthew 12)


Actions have consequences. Inaction as well.


"I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot. So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth. (Revelation 3)


Our public schools have become rampant indoctrination centers. Teachers have become so blatantly outrageous in their liberal practices that they don't even notice they are breaking the law, as evidenced by Barbara Boxer's campaign letter::


Dear Teachers, ...Various Government and Social Studies teachers throughout Los Angeles have asked if their students could take part in our campaign to gain an invaluable educational experience on one of the highest profile Senate races this election, earn extra credit, or fulfill class volunteer hours. We want to extend this opportunity to all local students and invite them to our state headquarters in Hollywood to volunteer."


And what does Boxer stand for? She voted for partial birth abortions, for unrestricted UN funding for population control policies, for embryonic stem cell research, to help students cross state lines to get abortions and against parental notification.


"But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were thrown into the sea." (Mark 9)


Closing our eyes and covering our ears, making ourselves BLIND to the evil that proliferates when we fail to stand against it...do not fool yourselves into thinking that no one is watching.


Maybe our politician will lose, maybe the America we know and love will crumble, polluted and perverted beyond recognition by our fellow Americans, but win or lose, YOUR VOTE will shine for the righteous intent in which you stood. The host of heaven IS watching and forever recording every effort you made to protect our children, our country, our one nation under God. Do not waste this opportunity. Vote.


Vote to protect our children.

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Glenn Beck exposing progressives,
your Chavez is showing

as seen at FreeRepublic By Jen Shroder

Ever feel like both Republicans and Democrats are just puppets on a stage of distraction? Glenn Beck has been explaining why to millions of captivated Americans. It's the Progressive movement and it attacks the Constitution from BOTH parties. If you haven't been watching his show, you need to.

Glenn explains how Progressivism has been with us since the turn of the century. It isn't discussed in textbooks because President Woodrow Wilson and Walter Litman were part of the "Council of Foreign Relations" whose goal it was to change history as we knew it through education and the media. The movement (alive and well today) is out to replace our beloved Constitution with a philosophy that the elite should rule. Woodrow Wilson said, "Justly revered as our great Constitution is, it could be stripped off and thrown aside like a garment and the nation will still stand forth..." He said the preamble of the Constitution should never be read and the Declaration of Independence has zero relevance to any other age other than 1776.
I never heard that in school...

Academic elites hold George Bernard Shaw dearly in their hearts. Are they aware he was a Progressive that said, "I think it would be a good thing to make everybody come before a properly-appointed board, just as they might come before the income tax commissioner, and say every five years, or every seven years, just put them there, and say, "Sir, or madam, now will you be kind enough to justify your existence? If you're not producing as much as you consume or perhaps a little more, then, clearly, we cannot use the big organizations of our society for the purpose of keeping you alive, because your life does not benefit us and it can't be of very much use to yourself."

These are Progressives with EVIL philosophies, admiring mass murderers like Che, Castro, Stalin and Mao. So who do we know that's a Progressive today? Beck plays the clips:

HILLARY CLINTON: "I prefer the word Progressive which has a real American meaning going back to the Progressive era at the beginning of the 20th Century. I consider myself a modern Progressive.

BARACK OBAMA: "You will carry on the best Progressive forward looking values of this proud commonwealth...," "Change has always come from places like Wisconsin, the State where the Progressive movement was born." He refers to Democrats as Progressives.

Before becoming President, Obama said the Warren court failed to "break free from the essential constraints" in the U.S. Constitution and launch a major redistribution of wealth. But Obama said the legislative branch of government, rather than the courts, probably was the ideal avenue for accomplishing that goal. Then he stood there in his State of the Union Address and chastised the US Supreme Court for their decision to uphold the Constitution.

MICHELLE OBAMA on the campaign trail: "...and Barack knows that we are gonna have to make sacrifices, we are gonna have to change our conversation, we are gonna have to change our traditions, our history, we are gonna have to move into a different place."

ANITA DUNN, former White House Communications Director: "Mao Tse Tung and Mother Teresa; not often coupled with each other, but the two people that I turn to most."
Mao was responsible for the deaths of 70 million people!

RON BLOOM, Manufacturing 'Czar': "We know that the free market is nonsense.... We know that this is largely about power, that it's an adults only, no-limit game. We kind of agree with Mao that political power comes largely from the barrel of a gun."

There are 82 members of the Progressive Caucus of the Democratic Party. In fact, 11 out of 20 standing committees are chaired by members of the Progressive Caucus.

Glenn has also noted that John McCain is a Progressive who's hero is Teddy Roosevelt, also a Progressive. This causes concern as to why Sarah Palin will be stumping for John McCain on his campaign trail? I love Sarah Palin, but we need to start scrutinizing our potential candidates carefully. Very carefully.
Meanwhile, as you can imagine, Beck is taking much heat for all his hard work. Articles are being published in the Mein Kampf media attempting to belittle Beck. Yet top historians don't seem to come up with a single inaccuracy.

Arianna Huffington said on Keith Olbermann of Beck, "We cannot just dismiss him because the truth of the matter is that there is a good reason why we have an exemption to the free speech protected by the First Amendment when we say you cannot shout "fire" in a crowded theater, and he's doing that every night, he's basically using images of violence to bring together with all that he's accusing the Obama administration of..."

So free speech should be protected when it agrees with Arianna Huffington and the Progressives. Arianna, your Chavez is showing.

Roger Ailes, CEO of Fox News, has taken some of the heat as well, to which I say hats off to both Ailes and Beck! Ronald Reagan said, "When government expands, liberty contracts." Many Americans are contracting right along with our liberties. Thank God for men who stand up and shout FIRE when there is one!

Beck entertains as he exposes political motives by restoring history through film clips. If you don't have cable or Fox News, now is a good time to get it. For the sake of the country, watch Glenn Beck. Because if we don't protect America as she was meant to be, it will be taken from us. As Glenn says, America, remember who you are.

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Christmas with Congress,
a seat for aborted souls

as seen at FreeRepublic  by Jen Shroder

"A voice was heard in Ramah,
Lamentation, weeping, and great mourning,
Rachel weeping for her children,
Refusing to be comforted,
Because they are no more."
Matt 2:18

In Bethlehem, Herod killed all male children under 2 years of age because he felt threatened. On Capitol Hill, battles are raging to keep the abortion mills running. Who threatens you, Pelosi? Why are you determined to murder our children, Reid?

If they succeed, the vote is shaping up for Christmas Eve, a night when we are all reminded of the Christ born in a manger, a star to guide the wise men and shepherds to his birthplace. What star will shine for our wise men on Capitol Hill?

Today in Washington, the usual suspects are plotting negotiations for votes while Larry Klayman accuses Obama of secret deals with lobbyists such as Planned Parenthood, a violation of the Federal Advisory Committee Act. Lies by Herod, lies by Obama, how did this story of infanticide come full circle and land on Christmas Eve? These are the beginnings of great sorrows.

We have been saturated with negative propaganda about Christ and Christianity from the media, our education systems censor His name. Many are becoming offended by the message of Christ just as Jesus predicted. Our Constitution, originally drafted by godly men, is crumbling before our eyes, lawlessness abounds and the greatest of sorrows is born by childless mothers weeping for their children.

The Bible warns of these woes and we feel them. We shudder as we read the news applauding Representatives like Lois Capps, currently "threatening to derail the legislation if a House-Senate conference committee does not remove language that would restrict access to abortions."

The swords of Herod must swing.

Rob Hotakainen began his article, "Capps Steps into Abortion Spotlight," with the words: "As a school nurse long ago, Rep. Lois Capps worked with children of the uninsured, getting eyeglasses for them with help from the local Lions Club."

So what was running through Capps’ mind as she handed out eyeglasses? Did she think these children didn’t deserve to live? How did she come to the conclusion that we absolutely must keep the abortion mills churning after distributing to the needy? Was she coldly thinking "brats" as she smiled, hiding her thoughts of "better if you’d never been born"? I know this sounds harsh but there it is in black and white. If she served as a school nurse and came out on fire to push for abortion, what was she thinking? Are only the rich entitled to bear children? Keep the eyeglasses, this is one "nurse" I wouldn’t want anywhere near my child!

So as you tuck in your children on Christmas Eve, touched by their innocent faces as they nod off to sleep, know that men have gathered in Congress much as Herod’s soldiers gathered in the night to take up their swords. If Congressmen vote the way of Obama, Pelosi, Reid and Capps, know that their actions will keep the blood flowing from millions more to come.

I urge all of us to pray, pray for our little ones and for all the childless moms that were misled and are weeping because their children are no more. The days are growing colder both in the hearts and minds on the hill.

Congressmen, put aside Pelosi, put aside your seats, put aside your treasures and see to your souls. If you sign this health care bill complete with the abortion language that Pelosi and Capps lust after, then you will have consigned America to stoke the fires of hell itself.

May God have mercy on our nation.

God rest ye merry, gentlemen
Let nothing you dismay
Remember, Christ, our Saviour
Was born on Christmas day
To save us all from Satan's power
When we were gone astray
O tidings of comfort and joy,
Comfort and joy
O tidings of comfort and joy

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Jen Shroder is founder of BlessedCause. Shroder has been interviewed by Fox News, Associated Press, and dozens of talk radio hosts and news media.

A Warning to the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals
by Jen Shroder as seen at FreeRepublic 

 
"Work on the book, work on the book." That thought pestered me for my whole Christmas vacation. "Across the Centuries," a nationwide 7th grade social studies book which maligns Christianity and embraces Islam, had recently gotten my attention. Not that I had time for it. I was to have a whole week off from child-care over Christmas vacation, a much needed time of silence and freedom. HA!
 
"Work on the book, work on the book."
 
"But GOD! (whiney voice) What about that Christmas party?" The reply was consistent,
 
"Work on the book."
 
I'm a slow reader. The textbook was HUGE. I had expected to find a plethora of religions trying to subtly draw my children in equally. It shocked me how much Islam was promoted.
 
As I flipped around, obvious affronts leapt off the page everywhere. I noted them and dug in with careful scrutiny, thinking I would find even more. But just about everything I was to find, I found at first glance. Even two small sentences buried in other sections of the book. I know who was directing my hand. Only God could show me so much in such a short time.
 
"Work on the book, work on the book."
 
Oh I was so sick of that book! It angered me as I found bigotry upon bias. I wanted to sue everybody. I wanted to load up on ammunition and start blasting, and God was giving me plenty of ammo. But before I was finished, God dealt with my attitude. He reminded me that these people, the teachers, the school board, the book authors, the State, Jesus DIED for these very people! He said, "LOVE them!" Oh that was hard. He made me realize that some of these school board members were why He had left the 99 in search of the one. "But, Go-o-O-O-o-o-d!" Ever try to, "but, GOD!" to God? It doesn't work.
 
Emotional roller-coasters. I hate 'em. When God stretches me to go beyond myself and see through His eyes, ouch! And my flesh (ego) just wants to belt away in defense of my kids with everything I've got. God says gently and expectantly, "I died for them." Oh sweet Jesus. Power under control.
 
So within days, as Christlike as I could, I pursued media attention and finally found Pacific Justice Institute. I was beginning to make noise. Within a day or two, Tim Timmons (total stranger) invited me to a luncheon four hours away, focusing on combating terrorism. Tim said it would have media attention, but I had no idea what he meant, how to dress or how big it was to be. I had no clue why I should go, but I knew I had to go.
 
When I arrived, I was stunned. 170 polished professionals from a world I did not know. Politicians, various religious representatives, school representatives, the media. It had been years since I'd seen a valet! Thank God my van wasn't overflowing in toys and graham cracker crumbs like it usually is.
 
Inside, I felt out of place. Without a clue of how to relate to these people, I thought to myself, "I'll just go hide in the corner and read my Bible." Then that familiar voice of late said, "Jen, get up and go talk to these people." "Yes Sir" was my obedient reply.
 
I walked into a large room full of people already deeply involved in conversations. So I boldly walked up to a man, (where did that come from?) introduced myself and started to talk, only to be interrupted by people who seemed to be obsessing about his well being. I thought, "Who is this guy?" I later found out it was none other than Mark Ellis of ASSIST news. Now how did I happen to find a major news contact out of a room of 170+ people within about two minutes? (dramatic glance up). I only had enough time before we went to our assigned tables to hand Ellis my 10 pages of "Objections to 'Across the Centuries.' "
 
It was at this luncheon when the news that a lawsuit had been filed against Byron County School District because children were told to "wear robes, take Islamic names, recite the Quran, play Jihad and pray to Allah." Suddenly news media everywhere wanted to know what our kids were learning. I timidly waved my freshly finished 10 pages of objections and VROOOOOM, it was emailed, posted and read live on radio all over the nation. I did not know the quotes had to be short clips to avoid copyright infringement, but God knew, and Mark Ellis submitted the first story about it, which began the media frenzy.
 
Eric Hogue of KTKZ radio in Sacramento got a hold of my objections and read them live, his initial outraged reactions expressed all over the capitol of California for all the politicians to hear.
 
There was no way I could have stirred up all this, it was all God's timing. That was why I felt the urgency to finish my review. All the prayers and tears that were previously shed by so many moms over the last 11 years as their sons and daughters had to read this hideous textbook, God heard them, yes, He heard them. He did not forget us.
 
Meanwhile, for weeks I had so many phone interviews that I wore out two telephone batteries and my message machine. Friends were calling as well telling me they heard the "Objections" quoted all over the nation, including the 700 Club and other outlets. William La Jeunesse of Fox News interviewed us, which Fox News repeated over and over at various times for weeks.
 
Then Lee Rodgers of ABC News wanted to cover the story and I was told I had to "keep God out of it." I told them that God was all there was of me, and wouldn't agree. ABC declined, a lot of coverage was lost, but God had other ways of getting the job done, as long as I remained in Him. One way was through the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), the United Nations nuclear watchdog, which had linked to my website. There was a lot of evidence that kings and leaders, especially in the middle east, were watching BlessedCause. http://www.blessedcause.org/proof/God%20grants%20evidence.htm
 
A few days later a reporter really pinned me down about what I would want in a social studies textbook. IF I could have it my way, what would that be? What a poignant question. If I stayed faithful to what God said, "Take heed that you inquire not of other nations and how they serve their gods," and replied that I would want NO religion in textbooks, then the Bible would be gagged as well. I know that if the Bible is matched up to other beliefs, it stands up every time, so would I prefer that all religions be introduced so that the Bible could be allowed as well? Many who claim to be Christian were making that argument. That sounded good but that wasn't what God said. So I asked for counsel again. And again many gave me "politically correct" coaching. It made sense, but it made me grit my teeth. So I prayed.
 
God was swift in His answer and I have relayed it many times. "God is not confined to what is politically correct." To the question of what should be in textbooks, I will always hold to what God said. If we turn our backs on God, He will turn His back on us. He has already told us in so many ways and in the Bible what we should and should not do. We shall have no other gods before Him. In all of history, God has never once negotiated that commandment. Not once did He tell the Israelites to teach their children about other gods so that other cultures could learn our ways. Not once. And not now. This deceptive ploy has been used to disparage Christianity and promote every other belief, including Satanism.
 
My own son came home mimicking this reasoning one day. "Mom, its not right that we have Jesus in school because it offends other cultures." I said, "Honey, if we moved to Africa and they worshipped their African god, would we be offended?" No. Kind of a stupid question isn't it. So why are other cultures so offended when they come to what was once a mighty Christian nation and see the word Jesus Christ? Why are we forced to relinquish our own culture?
 
God is no longer allowed in court, the Ten Commandments are being ripped right off the walls. In public schools, the name of Jesus is virtually outlawed, but Islam and every other pagan god is MANDATED. Our nation acts as though the name of Jesus is a four letter word.
After a long battle, ‘Across the Centuries’ has been changed, but "simulated" Islamic lessons are looming. The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals seems to be stalling on the Eklund case. Judge Phyllis Hamilton ruled it is appropriate for our children to "become Muslim", recite worship to Allah by heart, fast for Ramadan and take Muslim names. I suspect the 9th Circuit is stalling long enough for the students to graduate and invalidate the case. http://www.blessedcause.org/PressRelease/impeach%20phyllis%20hamilton.htm
 
America flaunts so much in God's face. We are the number one distributor of pornography. Would we sacrifice our first-born children to a sex god as the Old Testament pagan religions did? Think not? I remember being in high school and the general consensus was if we got pregnant, just have an abortion, our state will even pay for it. And millions are aborted yearly.
 
This is a warning to the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. If we turn our backs on God, He will turn His back on us. God will never forsake His saints (believers), for He ultimately has an awesome eternal plan for us individually. But as a nation, we HAVE turned our backs on Him, and He WILL lift His protective hand from this nation. Because of the 9th Circuit, our elected officials, judges and apathy, we will reap the whirlwind.

The Truth about Muslims

Recently I have been swarmed with emails from Muslim leaders attempting to convince me Islam is peaceful, that our gods are the same. I ask them one question:

"What do your holy books command if you left Islam?"

None have responded because the answer is death. For a people who claim their religion is compatible, a bloody reality is hidden behind a veil of peace.
Are Muslim leaders ignorant or are they purposely lying? The same could be asked of our teachers in America’s public schools who pump our children’s heads full of "peaceful Islam" and persecuted Muslims afflicted by evil Christian Crusaders. How is it possible that history teachers could know so little about history?

Two years ago I addressed our school board with the imbalance in our history textbook concerning Islam. I did not attack Muslims, I presented with charts and direct quotes how our textbook had devoted a huge proportion of Islamic religious beliefs as fact while disparaging Christianity. One school board member angrily accused me of bigotry until another member cautioned him of legal consequences. Today, I am still laying out the facts and continue to be labeled a bigot.

If a Muslim cannot convert to Christianity for fear of death, what label would that same school board member impose on Islam? Answer: Peaceful.

Today, the Chicago Tribune (1) published an article called "Schooled in jihad, Clerics block education reform in Pakistan." Apparently Pakistani textbooks continue to incite children of all ages to slaughter non-Muslims. "Islam comes in the world to dominate the world," says Syed Ali Mohiuddin, who graduated from a madrassa in Rawalpindi. Jihad and martyrdom are learned as early as 5th grade, "emphasizing that a Muslim has no faith if he does not wish for martyrdom."

In Jan. 2002 America set up a payment schedule for aid to Pakistan of $3 billion dollars and President Musharraf announced that all schools must register within two months and adopt a government curriculum. He vowed to close any schools that promote extremism or store weapons. Almost three years later most schools remain unregistered while science, math and English books continue to teach jihad.

In Palestine, textbooks contain:

• "Jews are the Enemies of the Prophets" – Islamic Education for Fourth Grade;
• "Drive out the Jews" – Our Arabic Language for Fifth Grade;
• "Jews are evil" – Islamic Education for Seventh Grade. (2)

No wonder the news media published pictures of children happily playing out the beheading of Paul Johnson and other unfortunate victims of Islam.

In May, 2003, the US Commission on International Religious Freedom (3) released that official government textbooks, published by the Saudi Ministry of Education, present Islam as "the only true religion and all other religions are considered invalid and misguided. Christians and Jews repeatedly labeled as infidels, enemies of Islam who should not be befriended or emulated, and referred to in eight grade textbooks as `apes' and `pigs.' Jews are" regularly "referred to as `wicked nation,' characterized by bribery, deception, betrayal,' and those who abandon Islam for another religion deserve to be killed, or at least imprisoned."

America’s public educators had better begin telling the truth about Islam instead of sugar coating it and force feeding it to our children as a religion to embrace. The holy books of Islam will forever define the religion and all of our attempts to rewrite it as peaceful will ultimately fail. That our teachers and administrators insist upon parading Islam around as ‘peaceful’ because ‘your children need to understand Islam in order to survive in the world’ has got to be nominated for the idiot claim of the century. If Islam must be taught, we should purchase the textbooks from Pakistan and Palestine and teach our children the truth about Islam. Then we could compare our own textbooks as examples of propaganda, a perfect opportunity to apply REAL "critical thinking." (psssp, don’t listen to your teachers, listen to your parents).

Muslims are not to be persecuted, they are to be loved. Not because liberals vainly demand tolerance and lie about reality in order to achieve it; no, we are to love Muslims because God commands that we love even those who hate us. But the truth about Muslims is that many Muslims are fully aware the ‘peace’ of Islam is a deception. Yet many peaceful Muslims honestly believe it is just that, peaceful, and are perplexed when asked about the violence condoned in the Quran, Hadith and Sira. TRUTH is important and indoctrination tactics must be abolished immediately. But public educators adamantly refuse to listen because they cannot stand the thought of parents imposing their (obvious) view on public education’s god of knowledge. But induction practices will not invoke tolerance, it will only invoke Islamic dominance.

Curriculums are underway as we continue to await the 9^th Circuit Court of Appeals decision about 7^th grade students being forced to "become Muslim." (4) Teachers and judges do not understand that when they demand children repeat: "None has the right to be worshipped but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger," even in simulation, the Hadith (holy book of Islam) commands that blood can be shed of anyone who confesses such words and then leaves them. (Hadith, Bukhari, volume 9, #17ms)

American soil has already been claimed by Islam (5) and our own schools are working to indoctrinate our children. Our own educational government is providing the Islamic legal right for Muslim terrorists to bomb and murder our children, apostate of Islam.

Love the Muslims? YES. God loves the Muslims so much He would allow us to suffer to share the good news of Christ with them, to reach out to them, regardless of the penalty. But indoctrinate our children to Islam? I have already jeopardized my life to publish the truth. America, hear me. Islam is courting our children while bombing our buildings. Just as mosques conceal weapons, Islam conceals violence. The shocking lunacy of it all is America is buying the lie, even as Russian school children are slaughtered, charity workers are beheaded, suicide bombers abound and "ethnic" cleansing of non-Muslims is happening in the Sudan. Even with all that, parents will look at me blankly and repeat, "But I want my child to understand the peace of Islam..."
And the sheep bleat on.

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Please write your objections to the following:Ninth District Court of Appeals website

Contact your legislator

Contact California's Curriculum Commission

SOURCES:

1. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0411280298nov28,1,4996809.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed
2. http://www.conservativetruth.org/article.php?id=2086
3. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4829855/
4. http://www.blessedcause.org/proof/Hard%20Proof%20Index.htm
5. Soundvision - a Muslim website that strategizes how to spread Islam in public schools. Soundvision states it is "Waqf fi sabellillah." Few Americans know it means "devoting a plot of land [America] for Muslim religious purposes in the name of Allah.

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Accused Terrorist Wrote School Guidelines with ACLU

by Jen Shroder[over 23 references linked below]
as seen at FreeRepublic

Abdurahman Alamoudi, President of the American Muslim Council, supporter of Hamas, Hezbollah and accused of ties with Osama bin Laden, helped develop "Religious Expression in Public School" with the ACLU which holds the copyright. Launched by Clinton in 1995, these "Presidential Guidelines" greatly impact public schools today.
 
Nadine Strossen, President of the ACLU, refers to these guidelines as the authority to support the ACLU’s lawsuits restricting Christmas celebrations and removing Nativity scenes from public schools.
 
School districts are pressured to utilize Clinton’s guidelines which he sold to America as "issued by 35 religious groups," failing to disclose they include many civil rights groups and are all described by the ACLU as committed to separation of church and state. This explains Strossen's haughty smile as she smugly said on the Lou Dobbs show, "All these religious groups agreed to it!" (12/19/03)
 
Alamoudi met often with then President and Hillary Clinton and has been described as Hillary’s friend and advisor on Islamic affairs. Protected by Clinton’s Presidential Guidelines, funding for Islamic educational materials began pouring in from Saudi Arabia and Muslim nations. Houghton Mifflin textbooks became saturated with Muslim beliefs as the Council of Islamic Education (CIE) helped write the textbook (originally denied by the publisher, Houghton Mifflin, until their Editorial Director was caught bragging about it in print).
 
CIE Director, Shabbir Mansuri, boasted that he is waging a "bloodless" revolution, promoting world cultures and faiths in America's classrooms. CIE has warned scholars and public officials who do not sympathize with its requests that they will be perceived as racists, reactionaries, and enemies of Islam.
 
Islamic organizations that remind Muslims it is their RELIGIOUS OBLIGATION (Dawa) to promulgate Islam are applauding Clinton and his religious guidelines today:
 
"In the U.S. one of the strongest arguments in favor of seeking religious accommodation for your child is President Bill Clinton's 1995 statement of principles addressing the extent to which religious expression and activity are permitted in public school. This was given to every school district in the United States." ~ SoundVision
 
Additionally, Clinton went beyond the ACLU copyright guidelines and added:
"Students generally do not have a Federal right to be excused from lessons that may be inconsistent with their religious beliefs or practices."
Pay attention. There went religious freedom.
 
At the end of his term, Clinton addressed Muslim leaders with a Ramadan message containing quotes from our children's textbooks today. Clinton categorically lists his accomplishments to Muslims:
 
"As America's six-million-member Muslim community grows in numbers and prominence, Americans of every religious tradition are learning more about the origins and meaning of Islam. That on "the Night of Power," the Angel Gabriel appeared to the Prophet Muhammad and revealed to him the first verses of the Koran. That the Koran declares that Ramadan was the month Allah's words were sent down, and so should be spent in fasting." -Bill Clinton
 
As terrorists executed attacks on America, then President Clinton slashed our defenses, gutted our intelligence, pardoned terrorists, halted investigations of Islamic charities and negotiated for peace, evidently with a powerful bargaining chip, our children through our public education system.
 
Fundamentalist Islam is determined to advance, entering by persuasion within our public schools and by sword at our borders. President Clinton has clearly provided both doorways as we are swarmed by two approaches of Islam, courting our children while bombing our buildings.
 
Is it hard to believe Clinton, professing to be Christian, could betray Christ and America like this? Examine the fruit. Lying under oath, dubious activities with staff, slipping in an ACLU document as written by "religious groups" is compounded when one remembers how Hillary demanded public funding for (brace yourself) a dung covered depiction of the Virgin Mary, with breasts of elephant dung, surrounded by genital pornography at the Brooklyn Museum in October 1999.
 
Together the Clintons met with Muslim groups in the White House so often it became commonplace. In speeches against President Bush, Clinton has condemned America by blaming us for the Crusades. With this kind of history, it is not hard to believe Clinton betrayed America's Christian heritage and used our children as bargaining chips in negotiations with Islamic leaders.
Today, Christmas and Nativity scenes are outlawed while Clinton's nominee, U.S. District Judge Phyllis Hamilton, recently approved "Islam: A Simulation" where children learn to "become Muslim, recite the Quran, fast for Ramadan and pray to Allah including this prayer:
 
"In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful. Praise be to Allah, Lord of Creation, The Compassionate, the Merciful, King of Judgment-day! You alone we worship, and to You alone we pray for help, Guide us to the straight path."
 
The double-standard is shocking, but one need only look at our public school guidelines and who wrote them, with clauses designed to open or close doors at the will of the ACLU, to discover how our nation finds itself in such a dreadful state today.
 
by Jen Shroder, blessedcause
Sources
http://www.blessedcause.org/clinton with over 23 references/sources
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3341720/

HOW THE ACLU STOLE CHRISTMAS
Jen Shroder
 

"Mom, why can’t we say ‘Christmas’ in our song?" a seven-year-old asks. Darla Dowell didn’t want to tell her daughter the truth, "Because the birth of Jesus is banned."

As children attend celebrations that include Islam’s Moon or the Jewish Menorah, Christian children feel the cold slap of oppression. No Christmas. How did this happen?

Because in 1995, Clinton’s Presidential Guidelines, Religious Expression in Public School, were originally drafted by the ACLU. These guidelines appeared to protect Christian rights, but for every single "religious expression," there is a clause of escape, a backdoor for groups like the ACLU to attack Christianity at will.

These guidelines were presented to America as drafted by "thirty-five religious groups." The truth is they were drafted by the American Muslim Council, American Humanist Association, Americans United for Seperation (sic) of Church and State, many more recognizable secularist groups among a few Christian-sounding names, along with the ACLU which also holds the copyright.

Clinton sold us these guidelines with much profession of his Christian faith. Sincerity is lost, however, when one remembers how Hillary demanded public funding for (brace yourself) a dung covered depiction of the Virgin Mary, with breasts of elephant dung, surrounded by genital pornography at the Brooklyn Museum.

Meanwhile, Islam is alive and well in our public schools. Textbooks proselytize Muslim beliefs as fact, children are asked to PARTICIPATE in religious practices, university freshmen are MANDATED to read quotes from the Quran supported by the ACLU, and nothing happens. Why?

Because Clinton preferred to "negotiate" with Muslim leaders rather than answer terrorists with our military. Clinton’s religious guidelines are applauded by many Islamic organizations that remind Muslims it is their RELIGIOUS OBLIGATION (Dawa) to promulgate Islam:

• "In the U.S. one of the strongest arguments in favor of seeking religious accommodation for your child is President Bill Clinton's 1995 statement of principles addressing the extent to which religious expression and activity are permitted in public school. This was given to every school district in the United States."

Clinton’s guidelines state:

• "Students may also speak to, and attempt to persuade, their peers about religious topics just as they do with regard to political topics."
• "Students have a right to distribute religious literature to their schoolmates."
• "Public schools may not provide religious instruction, but they may teach about religion…comparative religion, the Bible (or other scripture)-as-literature."

- When the Bible is presented, "Public schools may not provide religious instruction" kicks in. When the Quran is presented, "other scripture as literature" suddenly shines.

President Clinton even went beyond the ACLU's issued guidelines and added:
"Students generally do not have a Federal right to be excused from lessons that may be inconsistent with their religious beliefs or practices."
Pay attention. There went religious freedom.

At the end of his term, then-President Clinton seemingly relayed fulfillment of a promise as he addressed Muslim nations in his Ramadan message:

• "As America's six-million-member Muslim community grows in numbers and prominence, Americans of every religious tradition are learning more about the origins and meaning of Islam. That on "the Night of Power," the Angel Gabriel appeared to the Prophet Muhammad and revealed to him the first verses of the Koran. That the Koran declares that Ramadan was the month Allah's words were sent down, and so should be spent in fasting."

America's children certainly are learning these Muslim beliefs as fact, overseen by another Islamic educational organization that flourished under Clinton's regime, the Council on Islamic Education (CIE). Shabbir Mansuri, director, boasted that he is waging a "bloodless" revolution, promoting world cultures and faiths in America's classrooms. CIE has warned scholars and public officials who do not sympathize with its requests that they will be perceived as racists, reactionaries, and enemies of Islam.

America does not comprehend Muslim resolve to make America Islam. Suicide bombers have already demonstrated their willingness to kill and die for it. Clinton gave them Dawa, our schools, our very children with his religious guidelines and cloaked it with a false inclusion of Christianity. America, it is time to shout "ENOUGH." Our children are not for sale, we will fight for our religious freedom and YES, a seven-year-old MAY say the word CHRISTMAS!



SOURCE: How Clinton Surrendered Our Children to Islam,
 Clinton Embraching Islam